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a big deal. so what is a big deal? white house officials tell me anything over $2 trillion, but he is pushing for more in the area of cuts that would equal $4 trillion over the next 10 to 12 years. now, this all comes against the backdrop of a report today in the "washington post" saying thatm president obama is putting social security on the table along with medicare and medicaid and when we asked the white house about this, they said, look, this is not news. the president has always supported the idea of small cuts in those entitlement programs to make them more effective as long as the cuts didn't impact beneficiaries and having said that some folks on the hill say there are some scenarios which would see a major overhaul of the entitlement programs, but the white house says they would not want to see anything to overhaul the main programs. but one of the sticking points here, thomas, is taxes. democrats want to see a rollback in tax credits for the wealthy americans and in big corporations, and the republicans have said no way, we don't support anything that looks like a tax in
to respond. >> i think that i would describe it as dire. and we have three really big problems. we have a spending problem. we have a debt problem. and we have a jobs problem. >> wall street's reaction to all of this a sea of red there. you see the dow down 103 points, and the s&p down as well as the nasdaq. joining me is washington post columnist ezra klein who is also an msnbc contributor, and ezra, thank you for your time, and let's look at the big picture here, because this big number here, you can use the words disappointing and abysmal, and unsettling, and that is not good news for the obama administration, and what do you say? >> i use stronger words than that terrible. it is larger than the obama administration, because we see that the economy is not recovering. since march, we have added 540,000 people, and that is not a slow recovery, but the opposite of recovery, backsliding. meanwhile, washington is caught in the same narrow arguments, and john boehner says debt and spending. no, we need to focus now on jobs and we need to make that priority number one and not endlessly argu
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